The gist of it is that it seems that space combat in The Old Republic isn't the X-Wing, Tie Fighter or even the Jump to Lightspeed type gameplay that everyone was hoping for, but rather more of an on-rails shooter meant for the more casual gamer.
SWTOR-Station has the (translated, you might have to click the English flag first) details both on Space Combat as well as some further class details (nothing shocking there though). Here are the space combat details from SWTOR-Station:
Understandable people are disappointed as they were hoping that "space combat" meant free space exploration and combat much like Star Wars Galaxies' Jump To Lightspeed. In fact, as I've said before, whenever people mention "Space Combat" it always felt to me that that's what they're talking about and that just any combat in space won't do.
- Sprace Combat reminds of Rebel Assault
We call this gameplay "tunnel shooter". That means there are especially designed levels which make you follow a certain path. The player has a range of weapon systems to choose from to use against his enemies. You will receive a quest beforehand. If you're in space you will automatically receive side quests.- Missions are supposed to be a few minutes short and are more of an "action snack".
- There won't be any PvP space combat at launch, but it's a possible feature for a later state of the game.
- PC action played a mission, which included fighters, corvettes and cruisers. There task was to shoot 20 fighters and destroy the enemy's capital ship.
- Missions are well-staged/designed, there won't be any flying around doing nothing.
- Space combat is single-player for now, the hotspots are chosen from you space ship's bridge.
- Escort missions are planned.
- Space combat missions are completely optional for now, if you don't want to do them, you don't have to.
- There are six different types of space ships. Smuggler, Bounty Hunter, Agent and Trooper will have their own type of ship. The two Jedi and the two Sith classes will have to share a type.
Then there are further disappointments (to me) like there only being six ships. At the very least they could give each class a separate ship instead of giving both Jedi (and both Sith) classes the same ship. But then I've got the feeling that your ship doesn't really matter that much in the end; they'll all end up being the same with just a different skin.
Anyway, I could go on but I'm sure everything is already being said on the forums. The developers are concentrating all discussions into one thread now. Sean did make a very small comment on the content of the discussion though:
UPDATE [1]: To clarify, Space Combat is not a Turret Shooter (this is probably obvious after seeing the screenshot but some people were mentioning it in the other thread).Personally the only thing that interested me about 'space combat' wasn't the combat, but the free exploration of space. Since we're not getting that the whole thing leaves me cold. I know that The Old Republic isn't Star Wars Galaxies, but it would've been nice if they didn't dismiss the good along with the bad from that game. Maybe they'll add what people really want out of space in an expansion (as, to be fair, SWG did as well and I still believe that they're much better off concentrating on making a good ground game and leaving space for later), but I'm not really holding my breath.
I guess we'll see.
[UPDATE]
I've also since read the PC Gamer article which pretty much confirms everything from the PC Action article above. Specifically they compare Space Combat to Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, saying that you move along a fixed route with no control over direction or speed, but that you move around the screen's X- and Y-axes shooting things and avoiding asteroids. They say that BioWare expects most people to die or not complete the "main quest" the first few times and that later missions are "complex and difficult". Mostly the point seems to be (my interpretation) giving players a 'cinematic experience' while they get to shoot some stuff.
[link] to Space Combat Details at SWTOR-Station.
[link] to magazine cover at PC Action.
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I honestly didn't expect much more than this. True space control and exploration is a complete project in and of itself - possibly one we could see in a future expansion, but like you aptly pointed out, it is much better to see BioWare focused on polishing one aspect (planet-side) rather than releasing both in a slapdash format.
I see the Rebel Assault rails as a way to explore the space design in some way at a lower expenditure of "zots", even if it falls short of what prime expectations might have been.
I'm personally glad that some aspect of space will be included. I'd have been blown away by free-form exploration and combat, but I'm happy to compromise if it means seeing the game sometime this decade. It also provides an incredible selling point for an expansion at a future date.
As I noted before I do think it's a good thing that they're not splitting their focus between two main forms of gameplay. And yet when they announced that they had space combat I couldn't help but hope that they had somehow solved the problems (after all, they're rather ambitious with the game in general). So it was still a disappointment.
Next to that I'm not a big fan of 'mini games' unless a game is basically build around them (or if the minigame is a natural extension of the normal gameplay). I suspect that the kind of experience their space combat might give is also something that you can get in Clone Wars Adventures' Starfighter minigame (which you can pretty much play for free I think).
I would've been happy if the 'space' part was limited to pretty much what we had in KotOR (minus the turret shooter minigame). It would allow them to use the resources they're using on this now for the main game instead.
But I guess we'll see how it turns out.
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